Author Topic: 22 inches (Read 451209 times)

skateparkrider · « **Reply #165 on:** June 19, 2012, 01:27:55 PM »

Quote from: @ss4oLe;3570440

Speaking of low BB... Has anyone ridden that Speedball line at Eastside on one of these bikes?
I'd be curious how a low BB bike feels at those speeds.

Or how would something like the Wave C feel at those speeds...(super high BB)

Don't think there has been too many big wheeled bikes riding Speed Ball. There is one local there named Patrick who rides a 26". I never saw him hit Speed Ball though, but not saying he didn't.

I rode my Model C out there for like 6 laps through main line until I crashed and broke my back and wrist. For the few runs I did make it through, it was AMAZING! Still haven't won the war in my mind to take another lap out there. One day though...

I have hit a line at a different Austin spot called 4 Loko. It is a fast down hill line that ends up in a super tall right hip. I don't even like to ride my 20" out there anymore because the 24" feels so bad ass.

cmc4130 · « **Reply #166 on:** June 19, 2012, 01:35:51 PM »

Quote from: skateparkrider;3570415

BB still felt kinda low for my taste. If you grew up with a racing backround I could see how you would really like this geo. And like Vern mentioned, his front tire is crazy tall so it does raise the BB height a little bit.

Yeah, as an XL trails frame we did want the feeling to be more "in" the bike rather than above it. Yet the bb is still 1.125" above axle level. (And its taller than the Zeitgeist's +0.75"). So it's not 'low' like when you're talking about race 24"s that have the bb at axle level. The first 2ton proto was 1.5" above axle. That raw Standard a few pages back had 12.5bb as well, and I think the Amero does too. I definitely appreciate the Model C and Wave C with 1.75" above axle level as freestyle 24"s, especially with big bars they feel awesome to me. It will be cool to see the different versions or approaches to 22" geos and setups.

@ss4oLe · « **Reply #167 on:** June 19, 2012, 01:55:28 PM »

I guess my question was something along the lines of....

Does a lower BB make much difference at higher speeds (I just assuming that Speedball is wicked fast?) vs. a higher BB at slower speeds. One being more stable and one being less stable/easier to flick/hop....?

cmc4130 · « **Reply #168 on:** June 19, 2012, 03:28:24 PM »

Charlie (from bmxmuseum) built up a sweet STANDARD 22". His has +1.5" bb rise (12.5"bb) and 21" top tube. Killer!

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=3534258#p3534258

@ss4oLe · « **Reply #169 on:** June 19, 2012, 03:45:55 PM »

sickness!

21 TT seems crazy small. toe clearance? my 20 inch bmx is longer than that..... :p

cmc4130 · « **Reply #170 on:** June 19, 2012, 08:30:43 PM »

Quote from: @ss4oLe;3570476

sickness!

21 TT seems crazy small. toe clearance? my 20 inch bmx is longer than that..... :p

may be a little short for trails after you're used to longer frames, but i could still see it feeling amazing as an all-around bike. would love to check it out. toe clearance shouldnt be an issue because the front wheel is only an inch bigger in each direction, so it would be a very similar toe clearance as a 20" with 20"tt.

G · « **Reply #171 on:** June 20, 2012, 08:35:55 AM »

Quote from: cmc4130;3570475

Charlie (from bmxmuseum) built up a sweet STANDARD 22". His has +1.5" bb rise (12.5"bb) and 21" top tube. Killer!

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=3534258#p3534258

Nice.
Good to see that they didn't dimple/ruin the chainstays on that. Any idea on Chainstay length?

G.

BMXFU420 · « **Reply #172 on:** June 21, 2012, 05:44:08 AM »

I fucking hate how people make these bigger bikes, and put smaller bars on them. Like they should be the same height as a 20" for some bizarre reason. Make that shit HUGE, 12 inch bars and it'd be a giant BMX instead of some shit that's impossible to bunnyhop like a 20incher.

_tom_ · « **Reply #173 on:** June 21, 2012, 06:05:15 AM »

That Standard looks nice.

cmc4130 · « **Reply #174 on:** June 21, 2012, 11:14:25 AM »

Quote from: BMXFU420;3570869

I fucking hate how people make these bigger bikes, and put smaller bars on them. Like they should be the same height as a 20" for some bizarre reason. Make that shit HUGE, 12 inch bars and it'd be a giant BMX instead of some shit that's impossible to bunnyhop like a 20incher.

heh heh, do you even ride a 24"? but, yeah, a lot of guys are already running full size bars on 22"s and 24"s.

Chester with the S&M proto 22" with Perfect 10"s:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237841&p=3797143&viewfull=1#post3797143

i tried Perfect 10"s on my Liquid Feedback 24", but they were too tall. some guys are running 6"s on the Liquid but most are running 8"s.

my Liquid bike
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/f61/my-liquid-bike-227386/

G · « **Reply #175 on:** June 21, 2012, 02:52:57 PM »

Quote from: BMXFU420;3570869

I fucking hate how people make these bigger bikes, and put smaller bars on them. Like they should be the same height as a 20" for some bizarre reason. Make that shit HUGE, 12 inch bars and it'd be a giant BMX instead of some shit that's impossible to bunnyhop like a 20incher.

It would be better to use a longer head and steerer tube. We are already pushing what is sensible having 9 and 10 inch bars clamped on a 7/8" tube. Seriously think about the leverage involved. 10" is nearly 23 to 1 ratio, by the time you get enough pressure on the clamp tube to take typical riding forces you are getting very close to crushing the clamp tube and the loads in the tube itself are getting very big...

G.

skateparkrider · « **Reply #176 on:** June 21, 2012, 03:37:34 PM »

I ride 7 1/4" rise bars on my 24" and it feels perfect. Different strokes for different folks. I have tried running 8" bars on my Model C but it just feels too weird to me.

I think I would have liked the feel of CMC's last 22" I rode at House Park if the bars were a tad smaller. But Cullen also has an inch or two on me...

cmc4130 · « **Reply #177 on:** June 21, 2012, 08:06:11 PM »

jcordera's STANDARD 22". !! 2012 is becoming the year of the 22. heh heh.

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237841&p=3800306&viewfull=1#post3800306

The Radness · « **Reply #178 on:** June 21, 2012, 10:19:41 PM »

Been running 8.5 bars on my 24 with a topload, I love it. I use to feel back/shoulder pain after a ride, now it's this amazing all over slight ache. Like doing a back work out.

Didn't know that was possible.

@ss4oLe · « **Reply #179 on:** June 22, 2012, 12:42:07 AM »

It's all relevant. I run a top load stem with 3/4 inches of spacers and six inch bars. If I flip my stem, remove the spacers and run bigger bars, I get the same height...

I rode that 22 with perfect 10s. They were WAY too tall but Chester loved it. He's also taller then I am....

Bikeguide.org - Bike maintenance for BMX'ers · « **Reply #179 on:** June 22, 2012, 12:42:07 AM »

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