22 inches

[Blue Streak]

I would take 4 Odyssey/G-Sport rims myself.

[tzicktzack]

Wow thanks for all the info!  How many pawls does the driver have?  Do you know if it is an Odyssey joytech clone?

I had a short look inside the Faction Bike Co. rear hub (sorry no pictures so far). It's a Q-Lite system similar to the WTP supreme hub. Unlike a normal cassette hub, the whole internals are reversed, so the pawls ( 4 double pawls?) are inside the hub shell. Actually I dontīt know the producer and I can't find any aftermarket driver so far. I sent an email to Faction Bike Co. and wait for an answer.

[ssteinbr]

I had a short look inside the Faction Bike Co. rear hub (sorry no pictures so far). It's a Q-Lite system similar to the WTP supreme hub. Unlike a normal cassette hub, the whole internals are reversed, so the pawls ( 4 double pawls?) are inside the hub shell. Actually I dontīt know the producer and I can't find any aftermarket driver so far. I sent an email to Faction Bike Co. and wait for an answer.

Holy $hit!  I would be willing to bet the WTP 9t driver would work.  It is seriously hard for me to imagine Faction would design and fab a one off hub/driver.  Thanks again for all of the info.

[Boomhauer]

Holy $hit!  I would be willing to bet the WTP 9t driver would work.  It is seriously hard for me to imagine Faction would design and fab a one off hub/driver.  Thanks again for all of the info.

From the looks of things these are the same hubs that are on all of the 2013 2Hip complete bikes.

[skateparkrider]

Ya I am hoping Alienation comes through with rims...  Do you think we (as in the 22 guys on here) could team up and see if gsport or jim c would make a 22 rim?  How many guys do we have... at least 5 or 6.  I would take four 22" rollcage rims just for myself... minimum order could be 25?  If the total minimum order is more I could pony up.

I wouldn't count on that happening.  The internets cried out for 48 hole Ratchet hubs, they were made and then nobody bought them.  And that part was way less obscure than 22" rims.  

I'd be shocked if minimum order is 25. Probably closer to hundred/s but that's just a guess.

If you round up all the people, on all the forums that are into 22's, we still wouldn't have enough people/cash, I don't think.

Agreed. A minimum order for rims would be well over 100.  Not trying to discredit the 22" stuff.  It just is what it is.

I would ride one of those Velocity Deep V rims before I touched an Alienation.  Every Alienation rim I ever rode had some sort of problems.....Chrome flaking off the rim, the bead would pop off on my 24", they would bend and flex horribly.  At least the Velocity is a strong rim, although it might not look the prettiest.  

What is wrong with the Revenge wheel set that S&M makes anyway?  It didn't look bad.

[Austin Tasseltine]

i bought a 48h ratchet, and if the gcoaster ever materializes i hope you guys drill at least one in 48 so i can buy it

[@ss4oLe]

What is wrong with the Revenge wheel set that S&M makes anyway?  It didn't look bad.

1. they only come in black
2. they aren't welded at the seam
3. the wheels need spoke tension out of the box

Mostly I think people just want options. Even if they never buy 'em.

Tires are my biggest issue. The Revenge tires are the best yet but they are a little heavy by todays standards.

[-MEAT-]

How have i missed all this?!

Default reaction is disgust on the basis of 29in mtbs, which oozed from satans arsehole, but they actually look kind of right. I'd definitely like to try one.

[skateparkrider]

1. they only come in black
2. they aren't welded at the seam
3. the wheels need spoke tension out of the box

Mostly I think people just want options. Even if they never buy 'em.

Tires are my biggest issue. The Revenge tires are the best yet but they are a little heavy by todays standards.

Yea, the tires I have seen on some of the local 22"ers have been questionable at best.  Shit- I haven't found much in the way of choice in rubber for my 24" that I have fallen in love with.  Just got a pair of the 1.85" Intense micro knobbs.  Those have been my go to so far for my Model C.

[Stoked]

Shit- I haven't found much in the way of choice in rubber for my 24" that I have fallen in love with.  Just got a pair of the 1.85" Intense micro knobbs.  Those have been my go to so far for my Model C.

There's a bunch of 24" tire options out there.  If you can find some lightly used or pony up for new, the Schwalbe tabletops are nice.  Tioga, maxxis, kenda, and dmr make some good ones.

[ssteinbr]

What is wrong with the Revenge wheel set that S&M makes anyway?  It didn't look bad.

The rims have held up since mid august but the rear pinned seam is starting to go.

I rebuilt the rims a couple weeks ago and measured the rims with a micrometer.  The revenge rim is identical to the quadrant rim.  Not a bad rim at all and I am surprised they have held up this long (lots of cases etc.).  I really don't want to buy a whole wheelset just to get rims again.

Does anyone know is these aftermarket rims will be offered in 22"?  Apparently they have a welded seam.

[ssteinbr]

There's a bunch of 24" tire options out there.  If you can find some lightly used or pony up for new, the Schwalbe tabletops are nice.  Tioga, maxxis, kenda, and dmr make some good ones.

Stoked is right the tabletop tire is amazing.  As a matter of fact I still have the one pictured here on the front if you are interested Bob.  Trade?  It has a lot of tread left... like new and it weighs like 500 grams and grips crazy good especially in dirt.

[Blue Streak]

The rims have held up since mid august but the rear pinned seam is starting to go.

I rebuilt the rims a couple weeks ago and measured the rims with a micrometer.  The revenge rim is identical to the quadrant rim.  Not a bad rim at all and I am surprised they have held up this long (lots of cases etc.).  I really don't want to buy a whole wheelset just to get rims again.

Does anyone know is these aftermarket rims will be offered in 22"?  Apparently they have a welded seam.

Jay over at S&M said they were in the 22" game for the long haul, so I'm betting that those rims will be made in 22" also. :cheers:

[ssteinbr]

Jay over at S&M said they were in the 22" game for the long haul, so I'm betting that those rims will be made in 22" also. :cheers:

If so we are all set!

[Gooby]

We're in the process of building a 22" Holmes for a customer with all american made parts. I will report back with photos once it's compleate. Obviously we can't get %100 American made though (grips, tires).