22 inches

[@ss4oLe]

Yes! Buy  a 22.

So many rad frame options out now.

Do it.

[cmc4130]

Another oldie debating the switch to 22" because a 20" now feels too twitchy to be comfortable with. Mainly ride MTB now which is part of it. Have a 26" jump bike, tried 24s, neither quite feel right.

Convince how great and how happy you are with them.

Trails/flow rider, some street jibs, looking for something that takes that edge off the bmx twitchiness death feel so i can enjoy BMX time.

Bret Parker, Lubbock trails


https://www.facebook.com/rideindust



disc brake option 


The S&M ATF 22" kit also looks great....
http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/24-Inch-Shredding,29/S-amp-M-22-ATF,1283976

[Louis]

The S&M ATF 22" kit also looks great....
http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/24-Inch-Shredding,29/S-amp-M-22-ATF,1283976

Kit? That article doesn't have a working URL.

But I found the frame? http://www.sandmbikes.com/product/frames/atf-frame-for-22-wheel/

[dude...]

do it dean, i reckon itll be right up your street. a bit bigger than a regular bmx but not so much that it feels cumbersome and awkward

[cmc4130]

The S&M ATF 22" kit also looks great....
http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/24-Inch-Shredding,29/S-amp-M-22-ATF,1283976

Kit? That article doesn't have a working URL.

But I found the frame? http://www.sandmbikes.com/product/frames/atf-frame-for-22-wheel/

and if you check eBay, they have "kits" direct from S&M or their distributor with frame, fork, wheels, tubes, and tires ....

[Eggit2]

The S&M ATF 22" kit also looks great....
http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/24-Inch-Shredding,29/S-amp-M-22-ATF,1283976

Kit? That article doesn't have a working URL.

But I found the frame? http://www.sandmbikes.com/product/frames/atf-frame-for-22-wheel/

and if you check eBay, they have "kits" direct from S&M or their distributor with frame, fork, wheels, tubes, and tires ....

Can you link one? because I can't find it and I have a tax return coming up.

[cmc4130]

The S&M ATF 22" kit also looks great....
http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/24-Inch-Shredding,29/S-amp-M-22-ATF,1283976

Kit? That article doesn't have a working URL.

But I found the frame? http://www.sandmbikes.com/product/frames/atf-frame-for-22-wheel/

and if you check eBay, they have "kits" direct from S&M or their distributor with frame, fork, wheels, tubes, and tires ....

Can you link one? because I can't find it and I have a tax return coming up.

; )


http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-M-22-INCH-ATF-FRAME-21-625-TRANS-GREEN-22-KIT-WHEELS-FORKS-BMX-BIKE-FACTION-/221605447814?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3398b6c886

http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-M-22-INCH-ATF-FRAME-22-125-FLAT-BLACK-22-KIT-CHROME-FORKS-BMX-BIKE-FACTION-/221605447829?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3398b6c895

[xmidwestmikex]

I just ordered one up from Standard, cant wait!!

[Eggit2]

I'm really thinking about biting the bullet on one of those ATFs. I'm 6ft tall and I ride a 21.125" TT right now, which size TT should I go with, and what size bars do people usually run on these?

[peggiesmalls]

Most of the builds on bmxmuseuem have hoders,9 seems decent

[Bunky]

I'm 5foot 11 inches and my twenty inch bike has a 21.5 Top Tube.

I had an S&M Holmes (still do, just not built) that's a 22 TT, and now I have an Indust with a 21,5/8ths TT.

The Homes felt just a little bit too long for me.  I think it has to do with it having a lower bottom bracket too, but 22 was just a little bit too much on this bike.

The Indust feels pretty much perfect since it's got a slightly higher bottom bracket along with the shorter TT. 

I've had a top load stem and 8.5 bars on both bikes and it feels pretty perfect.

[cmc4130]

I'm really thinking about biting the bullet on one of those ATFs. I'm 6ft tall and I ride a 21.125" TT right now, which size TT should I go with, and what size bars do people usually run on these?

I'm 6'1". I run 9"s, but a lot of people run 8"s and 8.25"s.   If you like your current 20" and you're not trying to make a really "big" feeling bike, but rather just a proportionally sized 22" then I would say you should probably do the 21.6"tt ATF instead of the 22.125" one.  My InDust is a 21.7"tt and I like it.  (I have also tried a 21"tt 22"-wheel Stout, which works, too.... so it's really just personal pref).

8"s on my Indust 24" and 9"s on my Indust 22":



Here's an ATF22 with big bars:
22"s Go Here
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=5093369#p5093369

[xmidwestmikex]

I ordered my frame with a 21.25" TT and 8.5" rise bars. Normally I'd ride a 20.75 frame.

[cmc4130]

I ordered my frame with a 21.25" TT and 8.5" rise bars. Normally I'd ride a 20.75 frame.

Hopefully, STANDARD is factoring in tire clearance for S&M Mainline 22" and Faction F22" tires.  I remember someone in one of the bmxmuseum threads saying their early Standard custom 22" didn't have enough tire clearance for the F22 [EDIT: found link, pasted below].  The S&M Mainline 22" tire comes in two widths.

Comparison shot with my old Taj with ACS 20X2.00 flatland tires (I didn't ride those on the Taj, they just happened to be on the wheelset) ... and my Stout 22" with the Faction F22 tires. The F22"s are actually about 22.4" in diameter when inflated. There is very minimal brake arm clearance when the wheel is in the slammed position, but there is good tire clearance with the frame.

 

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=4513402#p4513402
Jobsy's 22"wheel 22"top tube Standard STA


Trail Boss clearance with S&M Mainlines:

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=4513972#p4513972
"Here's a shot of the 2.1 mainline just barely clearing with the axle centered in the dropouts.  I sent the tboss back to standard yesterday with a wheel and F22 so that they can put a wider rear end on.  All of their 22"s from here on out should have zero problems with clearance."

[22lyfe]

I ordered my frame with a 21.25" TT and 8.5" rise bars. Normally I'd ride a 20.75 frame.

Hopefully, STANDARD is factoring in tire clearance for S&M Mainline 22" and Faction F22" tires.  I remember someone in one of the bmxmuseum threads saying their early Standard custom 22" didn't have enough tire clearance for the F22 [EDIT: found link, pasted below].  The S&M Mainline 22" tire comes in two widths.

Comparison shot with my old Taj with ACS 20X2.00 flatland tires (I didn't ride those on the Taj, they just happened to be on the wheelset) ... and my Stout 22" with the Faction F22 tires. The F22"s are actually about 22.4" in diameter when inflated. There is very minimal brake arm clearance when the wheel is in the slammed position, but there is good tire clearance with the frame.

 

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=4513402#p4513402
Jobsy's 22"wheel 22"top tube Standard STA


Trail Boss clearance with S&M Mainlines:

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=4513972#p4513972
"Here's a shot of the 2.1 mainline just barely clearing with the axle centered in the dropouts.  I sent the tboss back to standard yesterday with a wheel and F22 so that they can put a wider rear end on.  All of their 22"s from here on out should have zero problems with clearance."

That was an old pic of my trailboss, the new rear end they welded on had plenty of clearance and Rick said they would be that wide from then on out.