dh bike that rides like a bmx

[Bink]

the reason i say rides like a bmx bike is becuase when i go to the dh trails, i dont really have fun on the bumpy technical shit, but i absolutely love the lines with smooth-ish paths and all the jumps which are much funner to ride on the lightweight full suspension bikes ive ridden compared to the super tough and heavy , super-slack-headtube dh bikse i also have ridden

so yeah, smaller, lighter and twitchier is better

and of course i was talking 2nd hand

This description is more along the lines of a Slopestyle bike, AKA a full suspension Dirt Jumper with a bit more travel.

I'd take master's advice and look into some slopestyle bikes. They have less travel (100mm) and tend to be cheaper than AM and DH bikes, and depending on the build, they can be pedaled up difficult climbs and ridden on most DH trails. Also, while a true slopestyle build typically has a 100mm fork up front, many slope frames can accept up to 130mm forks, which will help on the rougher, bumpier stuff. Check out the Transition Double, Banshee Rampant, Kona Bass, and the older Specialized SX to get an idea for slope bikes.

[LeonLikesToRock]

Some MTB grips are fucking goofy.

thought the same but for bmx grips, why no lock ons and gloves?

I rode lock on when they were sorta new, around 99. They used to slip when I cased a jump or landed hard and in turn I would eat some serious shit. Fuck those things. I'm sure they're much better now (they're the industry standard) but I'm done with those things.

[dude...]

im super fussy about grips, and looking at some of the hard lumpy mtb grips makes me shudder. personal preference though, im sure theyre not so bad if youre wearing gloves and if you dont have weird hard skin hands like me.

grips are a super personal preference anyway, thats why theres so many options i guess. as one of the main points where you are connected to the bike, its important to have some that you like

[Kinchy]

Lock ons suck. might be good for preventing slip but I've never felt a nice pair. ESI grips are nice.

[_tom_]

I still say try a Scott Voltage. Funnest bike I've ridden. I don't really ride techy dh stuff, it's perfect for the trails you're on about - fast and flowy with loads of jumps. Put it in 150 or 160 mm travel for the shock, get a 160 mm fork like a Lyrik and you're set. I'm actually using a 150 mm Sektor with mine at the minute and it still rides good.

Lock on grips are fine, been using odi rogues for years now. So much easier than fucking about with normal bmx  style ones.

[blueee]

any slopestyle bikes in 26in?

[master]

any slopestyle bikes in 26in?

Yes, they pretty much all are. 26" wheels give you a quicker/tighter handling bike.

An older 4X (4-cross) bike could also work. You would also do fine on a 26" DJ/4X/Slope hardtail if you stick to smooth trails.

How tall are you? Long arms/legs? Size is important on MTB frames...

I found the following:

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1637140/
http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1664122/
http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1610275/

Search terms: http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/list/?region=3&category=3&price=..1500&wheelsize=8

Shop around, deals are out there. Your local craigslist may also have something pop up but that's very hit or miss.

[_tom_]

People always used to rate the Santa Cruz Blur 4x, if you can find a cheap 2nd hand one of those that might be a good shout.

[cmc4130]

the reason i say rides like a bmx bike is becuase when i go to the dh trails, i dont really have fun on the bumpy technical shit, but i absolutely love the lines with smooth-ish paths and all the jumps which are much funner to ride on the lightweight full suspension bikes ive ridden compared to the super tough and heavy , super-slack-headtube dh bikse i also have ridden

so yeah, smaller, lighter and twitchier is better

and of course i was talking 2nd hand

This description is more along the lines of a Slopestyle bike, AKA a full suspension Dirt Jumper with a bit more travel.

Exactly. 

If you want 4"/4" (that means 4" rear suspension and 4" front suspension) then you have options like:
Black Market Killswitch
TRANSITION Double (out of production, but still a strong favorite)
Specialized P.Slope
NS Soda Slope

If you want a little more travel, e.g. 6"/6"
TRANSITION Bottle Rocket
Scott Voltage FR10, FR20

etc.

[blueee]

Okay i have no idea what is good or not. can you guys do a quick check through my local cl?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/
lots of mtb'ers out here so there should be a lot.
I already have a pretty sweet wheelset, maybe i could get people to part it and save a couple hundred?

[master]

How tall are you? Long/short arms/legs? Size is important...

[blueee]

regular ol 5'9 dude, clothes fit me normal so i figure im proportioned normal

i fi a 20.75bmx perfectlyt

[master]

regular ol 5'9 dude, clothes fit me normal so i figure im proportioned normal

i fi a 20.75bmx perfectlyt

Cool. So a medium (what used to be called a 17") frame would probably fit you well.

[master]

These are more trail oriented than jump/park/slope oriented but could work:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/4832116174.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/4846777751.html

A slopestyle bike but a size too big IMO:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/4828341311.html

[happycatbasket]

Yeah. You just want a slopestyle bike with a good rear shock. I had an older transition bottle rocket ( when they were 5.5" ) and ran it ragged with both a 160mm fork and 180mm dualcrown. I ended up getting the rear shock pushed when I got the new fork and it road like a champ. Despite what you'd expect, the longer fork dropped the BB and slacked out the head tube making the thing feel amazing. Don't be afraid of the slacker bikes because they'll feel amazing at speed and in turns and you'll probably get into those things relatively fast if you start riding more. Even with the longer head tube, the bike was amazing on jump trails like the stuff in whistler.

Santa Cruz doesn't really have that much of the techier rocky stuff, but it still felt great up in the rock gardens of tahoe. All in all, something similar would be perfect for anywhere in the bay.