Keychain woes?

[dude...]

mine was rough as balls at first too, but its better now. my wonky chainline due to my drive side hubguard didnt help either i dont reckon

[G]

I can't get mine smooth, and the only factor left is my Ratchet. Any ideas?

Sorry if this seems obvious but have you tried a bit of lube? The oil that chain companies put on at the factory is more about preventing corrosion in the box than quiet smooth operation.


G.

[GUMP_]

Can't say I noticed the key chain ran rougher than my old collapse chain

[weedbix]

I can't get mine smooth, and the only factor left is my Ratchet. Any ideas?

Sorry if this seems obvious but have you tried a bit of lube? The oil that chain companies put on at the factory is more about preventing corrosion in the box than quiet smooth operation.


G.

That was a very fair call. Half the reason I change chains so often is that I prefer the factory lube. Lube didn't help however (I already tried)

I did notice something though, unless I am tripping HARD; The Keychain seems longer than the 510 it replaced. I aligned/secured one end of both chains using the 510's pin in the allen key slot of the keychain, pulled them straight, and the keychain was longer by a small but visible amount. I mounted the 510 on the bike again and had to move the wheel forward to avoid the chain being too tight. To be clear, the keychain was slack at a wheel position where the 510 was not

[dude...]

that would explain why monty mitchs was riding high in the middle of the contact area on the sprocket. pre stretched a little too far making the spacing between the rollers slightly too far. i run my chains slack as fuck and my sprockets pretty old now so didnt notice any issues personally but on a newer drive setup it could be an issue

[DontcallmeKenneth]

My hands are weak because the same thing happened again with my chain with the screw coming loose. Thought I tightened it pretty hard this time but I guess not. I have to order a new link so I can run my chain again. I love the chain though.

[GUMP_]

Yeah I noticed when I was working on my bike that the grub screw had started working out. Hopefully I've tightened it enough now

[Rockhard]

I can't get mine smooth, and the only factor left is my Ratchet. Any ideas?

It's the driver teeth profile, I dremeled mine a bit until the chain operated smoothly.

[DontcallmeKenneth]

So the screw pulled through again. My shadow chains as loose as they get never broke. Now I'm debating on just selling it or just wait to buy the stupid links. Definitely have the keychain woes.

[Prodigal Son]

Superior Odyssey engineering strikes again!

[dude...]

is it possible to add more links to the keychain with a chaintool or only using the special allen key links? this is my only real issue with the chain, although ive not broken it yet so its not been an issue

[DontcallmeKenneth]

That's how I got it to work again after I lost the first screw when i broke off 2 weeks ago. I had an extra pin and just linked it that way so I only has to use two of those. But I was lucky and happened to have that extra pin. I don't have anymore keychain parts so I have to buy a new link that has the replacement screws.

[weedbix]

is it possible to add more links to the keychain with a chaintool or only using the special allen key links? this is my only real issue with the chain, although ive not broken it yet so its not been an issue

How much longer does it need to be?

1 tooth = ~1/8"
1 half link = 2t = ~1/4"
1 full link = 4t = ~1/2"

If you are switching from 28t to 30t then all you need is a half link.
25 to 28, 2 half links (or one full link), but the wheel will move back in the dropouts by ~1/8"
25 to 30, one full link and one half link (or 3 half links lol), and wheel will move back by ~1/8"

Alternatively if you are going to a longer frame, adding a half link would move the wheel back ~1/4", a full link ~1/2"

[dude...]

ah no i was just meaning if i do snap it being all street and grinds

[DontcallmeKenneth]

You will need the keychain pins. Nothing else will work. I'm keeping mine because I am a slave to the slam. I'm not sure if any other full link chain has the same length links as the keychain. Its why I'm not running the shitty chain I was using prior to getting the keychain.